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Post by mattgcn on Aug 22, 2005 2:31:18 GMT
Ok, personally, I think we have way too many, so I devised a plan to scrap a few.. Well, at this point we have about 153. I think 120 is a better idea. Now, the guidelines, though ultimately the decision lies with Remy. -Narrow it down to those without stats first (Leave Marich, Mentha, Rosh, Traco, (They all had stats. We should also redesign them slighty and maybe rename them for the last two to base them off of something)all those before but not including Tamiri, and Enigma. -Narrow it down to those who aren't and have no chance of becoming based on real fruits/veggies/nuts (Those that are need to be spruced up a bit, and some can be made to be) Now, lets try to make a list of 33 to cut, since 120 seems really reasonable. Also, we could scrap a few more and make new berries based on fruits, the berry ideas thread has many good ideas (Also use the thread to find ideas to change existing berries into real fruits)Bold in the thread- Highly suggested idea (Especially if named) Strikeout- Done or scrapped
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Post by remi = þånÐå on Aug 22, 2005 7:46:28 GMT
I Agree I truely believe that we have far too many ... 120 is a good number and I will be going through them all .. and listing all that I think we should get rid off.
But as long as make the Final judgement, I wish that no one Question my judgement cause that make it very iffy.
Now as far as how too SCRAP I agree with what you have thought of .. I NOT BE MAKING ANY NEW BERRIES....(Unless there is a very valid reason for me to do otherwise/ or popular demand for to do so)
I also believe that we could go further than 120 I would love too see a number smaller than that like 100/105 but that might be pushing it abit too far not sure I will see what you all think about that? Including Shadolf.
I will be making New Trees to Replace all of the ones I have made(seeing as I have become so much better). I will also be making the Item sprites for them all so all to UNIFORM it all to one persons work ....
The GYMS RE-VAMP can wait untill This HUGE task has been completed ok ..
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Post by mattgcn on Aug 22, 2005 20:56:21 GMT
100 may be better, I agree. But remember to keep those with stats and those that are based off of real berries first. Easier for name origins, I don't even remember what half the crap means (Tictoss is one of my favs that I remember, even if it doesn't have stats keep it..Tic-tac and floss, since you said it's like candy floss)
New berries could be for anyone whose willing, but ultimately it's up to you Remy. Shadolf obviously has her say too, but you're the berry guy.
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Post by Shadolf on Aug 23, 2005 3:41:20 GMT
101 personally...it's an odd number...very atypical. Well, not in Pokemon anyway.
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Post by remi = þånÐå on Aug 23, 2005 6:55:10 GMT
101 it is ...
Now I have had a look through all of the Berries.
The berries have either been based on a Pokemon (which was a good Idea back then but not now) of have no Stats or Both...
This is a list of ALL the berries I believe should be Scraped :
75 Tamiri 76 Pinope 77 Camito 78 Rillota 80 Gasauile 82 Pinafur 83 Phisroc 84 Storf 85 Fuisie 86 Flume 87 Tesni 88 Akon 90 Molde 93 Hydro 94 Squim 96 Tawho 97 Papris 99 Sprin 100 Truit 103 Serpen 104 Duble 107 Tobasca 109 Squigle 110 Tatip 111 Pluma 112 Neef 113 Wale 114 Cafle 115 Grepalet 116 Circorn 117 Googla 118 Spectrite 120 Iris 121 Niom 122 Lavery 123 Crawn 124 Blanten 125 Swape 126 Twinue 127 Mulpud 128 Ranecorn 129 Bynary 130 Charc 131 Shroob 132 Duns 133 Luva 134 Splear 135 Medicher 136 Marschi 137 Trilor 141 Misvus 142 Fluto 143 Mauvilet 144 Elixay 145 Spike 146 Duala 147 Squild 148 Bella 149 Nichou 152 Transferry
Thats 60 in total to scrap and with those gone that leaves us with a total of 93 berries which means there is space for 8 more to make a total of 101 berries ...
I would suggest someone picks 8 Fruits or Veges for me to make into berries rather than me go own with out any guidence with you know what I mean ... (4 and 4 would be good seeing as we have this combination to work with)
I will start by re-doing the trees for the ones we have Keep and making them fit the Grid for Tiles ... (Seeing as I getting better at seeing what works with animation I might fix a fewof the other ones who need it badly ..) I have keep those which Matt said to keep also a few that had stats and had a good Sprite .. Here is the list of berries Re-maining:(Numbering may Change considering NEW berries.)
1 Cheri 2 Chesto 3 Pecha 4 Rawst 5 Aspear 6 Leppa 7 Oran 8 Persim 9 Lum 10 Sitrus 11 Figy 12 Wiki 13 Mago 14 Aguav 15 Iapapa 16 Razz 17 Bulk 18 Nanab 19 Wepear 20 Pinap 21 Pomeg 22 Kelpsy 23 Qualot 24 Hondew 25 Grepa 26 Tamato 27 Cornn 28 Magost 29 Rabuta 30 Nomel 31 Spelon 32 Pamtre 33 Watmel 34 Durin 35 Belue 36 Liechi 37 Ganlon 38 Salac 39 Petaya 40 Apicot 41 Lansat 42 Starf 43 Enigma eC Berries- 44 Chilan 45 Nutpea 46 Eggant 47 Drash 48 Pumkin 49 Strib 50 Ginema (((51 Kuo 52 Yago 53 Touga 54 Niniku 55 Topo)))- These should have names based on english named fruits, though we could say they're imports from a foreign land..maybe Bombur to give PF a mini cameo.
Treasures Berries: 56 Caloup 57 Niono 58 Conut 59 Keel 60 Nektine 61 Pinrut 62 Chipep 63 Pistach 64 Torroc 65 Tatop 66 Bete 67 Erylec 68 Gesoo 69 Nilla 70 Shrum 71 Moya 72 Guanab 73 Swesop 74 Liqui 75 Weshca 76 Mentha 77 Frack 78 Rosh 79 Divolo 80 Coblat 81 Traco 82 Surrus 83 Tictoss 84 Zukinny 85 Bleri 86 Uno 87 Scune 88 Enti 89 Raik 90 Togie 91 Marich 92 (Akon Revamp?) 93 (Grepalet Revamp?) 94 (-) 95 (-) 96 (-) 97 (-) 98 (-) 99 (-) 100 Hurric 101 Albin
Hope No one has any complants..!!
Edited by the homocidal psychopath, Matty boy.
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Post by Shadolf on Aug 23, 2005 15:36:59 GMT
Nice...looks good to me. Make the Hurric and Albin berries numbers 100 and 101, respectively.
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Post by mattgcn on Aug 23, 2005 17:19:49 GMT
I edited your list.
75 Tamiri 76 Pinope 77 Camito 78 Rillota
Do any of those sound like any sort of fruit?
Also, Grepalet and Akon are based off of fruits, grapevines (Grepa is grapefruit) and Acorn. Grepalet can be made only purple/green/red to look like a real vine and Akon just needs a total rehaul and maybe a new names (Akron, though someone said one site that no one's ever heard of would be pissed, but I don't really give a flying eeee....)
EDIT: As well as Hurric and Albin keeping their numbers as the final, I moved Enigma up to right above the first set of E-cards. I still think despite us having the berries that it deserves its place. I redid your list slightly too, also later I'll rename the non-fruit berries, the few we have left.
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Post by remi = þånÐå on Aug 24, 2005 6:40:08 GMT
Here is the Final Sheet for berries ... There not in order but its the sheet I will be working on and will post when Finished ok ... WORK IN PROGRESS.... I am posting it so people can see the Final remaining Berries.
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Post by Shadolf on Aug 24, 2005 16:07:27 GMT
Do the red dots mean that the berry needs to be resprited or the trees do?
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Post by BonzaiRob on Aug 24, 2005 16:12:35 GMT
The Entei, Suicune and Raikou berries are cool. Is the blue, white and red one on the same row Marrill or Kyogre?
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Post by mattgcn on Aug 24, 2005 18:23:25 GMT
Why did the Ec2 berries and Enigma end up in different places on that sheet?
BTW Bonzai, it's based off of Marill.
EDIT: Oh, not final order, right
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Post by remi = þånÐå on Aug 27, 2005 8:10:27 GMT
Here it is with a few new addition or shall I say revamps of old ones ...
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Post by mattgcn on Aug 27, 2005 17:15:17 GMT
I love em , good job Remy
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